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posted 02 May 2007 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for add   Click Here to Email add     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi

The sln community I believe, has been the backbone of the GGIP campaign for sometime now. I hope as a committee member the GGIP can call on your support for a new venture that can really prove the power of sln and Give Geography Its Place.

The GGIP aims this year to target Geography in our Primary Schools. The plan is to create using slners a Geography “super scheme” to enhance Geography Teaching in our primary schools and Give Geography Its Place. The scheme will focus on Year 6 and possibly Key Stage 2/3 transition.

The scheme and resources (powerpoints, worksheets, photographs and movies etc.) will be available for all to download for free from the GGIP website and the contributors will be acknowledged. We also plan publicity around the launch of the resource.

This thread will become a consultation of what the topic (if any) the scheme should focus on, The consultation period will end on May 11th, and the creation of resources etc. will begin.

This resource will innovate and inspire! This forum has so many creative ideas lets share them!

What we need from slners….
1. views on what topic or topics should be the focus
2. pledges of support to develop the scheme by developing resources
3. email me (in profile) if you are an interested primary teacher, your views and advice is welcome here also
4. email me if you wish to receive updates about the project development

Littlemiss and I (and anyone who shows a positive interest to be involved) will put this all together.

Any questions email in profile.

Give Geography its Place,

Adam

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posted 02 May 2007 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlemisssunshine   Click Here to Email littlemisssunshine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes... this has potential to be a fantastic resource, and to really help to spread the GGiP message further.

As Adam says, all comments, suggestions, creative ideas, offers of help/resources, etc. very welcome!!

Give Geography its Place!

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chris.ellesse
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posted 02 May 2007 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chris.ellesse   Click Here to Email chris.ellesse     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am definititely interested in this, especially as one of my aims for next Autumn is to produce and then trial a KS2-3 transition unit in a few local schools.
In answer to your questions:
1. Many Y6 staff cover "The mountain environment" and "What's in the news?" as these are the QCA unit for Y6. However, I like the idea of something "environmental" or "fair-trade" linked, to work as a transition unit. Chocolate immediately springs to mind!
2. Yes, but depends upon your timescale? I cannot commit any time to this until July onwards, as am also involved with a secondary GAP unit on Food Miles.
3. I will pass this onto a Y6 teacher who I think might be interested.
4. yes please, updates would be great

I really like this idea. It practical, productive and fills a real need. It might even encourage some more primary liaison between secondary geography depts and their feeder schools, which would be fantastic.

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posted 02 May 2007 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hiltom   Click Here to Email Hiltom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This would be a superb resource!
Have taught year 6 for the first time ever this year and was confronted with the instruction - well those are the videos we've got......what do you fancy? They have never had a geography specialist so were a bit clueless. Mountain environments and coasts seem to be popular at year 6 - although I've just had a wonderful term spent on Mexico. Have only this year's experience at this level so don't really feel I can offer much in the way of resources or advice but if I can help in practical way - please let me know. My head is very anxious to promote a whole school ethos (we are secondary and junior on two different sites) and would really like me to organise geography throughout the school. So am interested in ideas about KS2/3 transition.
Keep up the great work!

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posted 02 May 2007 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlemisssunshine   Click Here to Email littlemisssunshine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the comments and great to see such a positive response already!

Would we be better looking at a topic area that is already popular (and therefore presumably pretty well taught!) - or looking at something new?

Or should we be going for something more general, rather than a scheme of work on a specific topic?

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posted 03 May 2007 01:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham   Click Here to Email Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What a fantastic idea.

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Alan Parkinson
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posted 03 May 2007 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alan Parkinson   Click Here to Email Alan Parkinson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Will pass something on over the weekend as this is an area I am keen to develop further.
I do have a Primary page on the website with various links which might be useful. http://www.geographypages.co.uk/key12.htm

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posted 03 May 2007 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for benchmarrow   Click Here to Email benchmarrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i already do this- just a bit busy to detail it all now, but have run two different schemes in local primaries

i have asked for it to be on the agenda on the SPC meeting in June

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posted 03 May 2007 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iron   Click Here to Email Iron     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What a positive initiative. Seriously bad timing for me to get involved (lots of stuff going on personally) but if anyone wants a proof reader etc or ideas then I will try to help.

Chocolate would be a very good transition. I have something somewhere on world meals, can't find it at the moment but when I do I'll forward it to Adam...

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GeoDave
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posted 03 May 2007 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeoDave   Click Here to Email GeoDave     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When Dan and I stood aside from running GGIP full-time, we wanted to develop some positive initiatives since we had spent nearly 9 months nagging people and moaning. I think this is a great way to promote Geography and GGIP and it is something we are quite capable of doing as a grassroots Geography community.

I know now is a really busy time for everyone ( I haven't seen our staffroom so stressed for a while as this week)BUT this is a medium term project and if lots of people contribute a little, then we can get it moving forward. As I said above, it is all about seeing if we can work as a community. All work/contributions will be credited.

At the moment, it is good to just get positive reactions and as many ideas as possible. Adam will co-ordinate and Victoria ( ) is going to act as Editor so feel free to e-mail them with ideas/resources and offers of help. Over the next few weeks and particularly once exam classes start to leave, we can get down to some practical work. People may well already have resources that can be easily adapted once the topics/structure is agreed.

Thanks to those that have chipped in so far.

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posted 03 May 2007 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daniel Raven-Ellison   Click Here to Email Daniel Raven-Ellison     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will do some video work to support this over the summer. Once there is a theme, focus for the resource just let me know what I can do.

Just as a thought. Could the focus of the pack be 'G'... this is Year 6. G is for.. like the title of this posting, but doing some simple research into the letter 'G' in respective communities?

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posted 03 May 2007 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeoDave   Click Here to Email GeoDave     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any other suggestions from people involved with Year 6 or Year 7?

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posted 03 May 2007 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for add   Click Here to Email add     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for those people who have emailed me and willing to do their bit. I visited a primary school today to try and work out what they need. I would love to be in contact with any keen primary geographers...if you know of anyone please contact me.

There are two issues here:
1. Giving Geography its Place in Primary education
2. Seeing what this forum as a community has to offer?

We want your support.

Adam

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posted 03 May 2007 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for add   Click Here to Email add     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Come on forum, I know it is the busy month...but this will not wait.

Send this letter as an attachment or even better print it out and post it to local primary schools in your area.

Do your bit for the GGIP
http://www.electronicfiles.net/files/4214/ggipsuperscheme.doc

Adam

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Kate Russell
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posted 03 May 2007 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kate Russell   Click Here to Email Kate Russell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great idea! Contact the GA's primary committee and Wendy North or Paula Owens (who are involved in the Primary Quality Mark)

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posted 03 May 2007 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kate Russell   Click Here to Email Kate Russell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't forget that the GA already has produced and published a Geography Super Scheme (although it is very QCA scheme led)

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posted 03 May 2007 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlemisssunshine   Click Here to Email littlemisssunshine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great letter Add - saved me a bit of work this evening!! Will be going to as many Derbyshire primary schools as I can manage tomorrow!

Thanks for the comments Kate - I think we were mindful of the fact that there are some good resources out there for primary geography, and were keen to acknowledge that there is some excellent primary geography going on - but also that much more could be done. What we were hoping to create was something that would be free, would foster links between primary and secondary geography (with potential for supporting primary geographers in the future, and developing cross-phase work), and that would enhance geography and promote GGiP.

Come on everyone - get Add's letter printed and sent out to as many primary schools as you can...

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Alan Parkinson
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posted 03 May 2007 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alan Parkinson   Click Here to Email Alan Parkinson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also worth checking out Stephen Scoffham's excellent Primary Geography Handbook which is an essential purchase for Secondary departments too...

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posted 04 May 2007 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for add   Click Here to Email add     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Email the letter NOW to any Primary School you know of. Mark FAO: Person in Charge of Geography.

As Nike once said "Just Do It"

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posted 04 May 2007 07:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stephen Schwab   Click Here to Email Stephen Schwab     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have worked with Cheshire Primaries for 3 years, on transition especially.
An Alladins lamp approach is ok- if you mean it, but 2 notes of constructive caution;-
Don't get frustrated by a minimal responce colleagues are up to here with SATS at the moment, they my need longer to reflect on what they want from geography.
Don't impose or dictate to them, its a partnership remember.
If i can help, ask.

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posted 04 May 2007 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jonnewton   Click Here to Email jonnewton     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what a fantastic idea. Have been shocked by the death of primary school geography that has happened over recent years. Have also been asked to teach some primary geography as part of the transition program with our feeder schools, so all ideas will be appreciated!

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Daniel Raven-Ellison
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posted 04 May 2007 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daniel Raven-Ellison   Click Here to Email Daniel Raven-Ellison     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Faxed to all my local Primary schools in South Oxfordshire area.

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posted 04 May 2007 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for benchmarrow   Click Here to Email benchmarrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the work i do in primaries is with year 5 as many are reluctant to give up time for their precious SATs

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posted 04 May 2007 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wendyn   Click Here to Email wendyn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Kate for alerting me to this discussion. I think this could be excellent. It would be good to see some of the creative strategies that are being developed in the best secondary classrooms shared with primary teachers. Just a plea for a little sensitivity around how this is done - though I know from previous posts that you are asking for contributions from primary colleagues. I had a few thoughts as I stood in the shower this morning (probably not too good for my global footprint but quite good for getting my brain cells working). There are aspects of geography, for example, making difficult and frightening concepts like `climate change’ accessible to year 6, that could be fruitfully developed. An advert in a Guardian weekend magazine: `Leave a smaller footprint on holiday’ – Discover Devon - made me think of a possible route that involved using adverts/ headlines from newspapers. Another one could be linked to a book called `Going to School in India’ – where children from very diverse and different places in India make the sometimes very difficult journey to get to school – why are they prepared to go to all this effort? Would our Y6 class be prepared to walk XXX miles? The advantage of this book over the far more limited locality study of Chembakolli is that children are introduced to India as a vast & diverse country. There is a very sound basis for developing citizenship and for an introduction to simple aspects of economic geography. How do these kinds of proposals sound? I think primary teachers are looking for new direction and not simply a re-hashing of the QCA units.

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posted 04 May 2007 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeoDave   Click Here to Email GeoDave     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No-one is imposing or dictating Stephen and yes, you can help. When you get the time, get a copy of the letter to all the primary schools that you have contact with in Cheshire. As a transition expert, it would be good to hear a few ideas on structure, content, etc.

Benchmarrow - use your experience with Year 5 to throw in some ideas. There is nothing sacrosanct about the proposed pack - the idea is just to try and boost Geography in the final years of Primary and try and offer support to Primary teachers many of whom have no Geography background. This is going to be a flexible resource!

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posted 04 May 2007 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeoDave   Click Here to Email GeoDave     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the comments Wendy - really useful. It opens up the discussion so that people can start thinking in different and imaginative directions. I think it is a difficult thing to do successfully without some primary input. Keep thinking in the shower! More ideas welcome.

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posted 04 May 2007 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stephen Schwab   Click Here to Email Stephen Schwab     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GeoD.
it was constructive advice.
This is a partnership too.
I'll do Cheshire contacting, and i'll help the project if i can.

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posted 04 May 2007 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for add   Click Here to Email add     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Wendy that is really helpful, i will contact you by email is that is ok?

Please spread the word Geogaphers! This post should have hundreds of replies by next week.

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posted 04 May 2007 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for add   Click Here to Email add     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh...

I have been inspired by the amount of Primary teachers who I have already have contact with.

The GGIP have not and will not dictate to them (whoever they are). The aim is to promote Geography at any level, in this case Primary and I see no evidence that we are not working in a partnership? If anything stronger primary and secondary links may well benefit all.

People are giving up their time to make a difference for Geography. I admire them for that.

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posted 04 May 2007 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlemisssunshine   Click Here to Email littlemisssunshine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lots in the new GA Magazine about primary geography and the KS2/3 transition.

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posted 04 May 2007 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for johnt   Click Here to Email johnt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As a retired teacher (with time on my hands!!!) could we be useful in helping primary colleagues? Is there a case for a 'Dad's Army' of retured geographers to man (woops sorry) person the defences?

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posted 06 May 2007 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for add   Click Here to Email add     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Consultation not extended to 18th May, to give us all a chance to target Primary schools in our area.

Adam

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posted 07 May 2007 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Noel Jenkins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll be involved - am working on an idea during June (GPS etc related) June + July finds Primaries desperate for apres SATs activities

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posted 07 May 2007 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jimboe89   Click Here to Email Jimboe89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Only just got round to reading this discussion, which Im a little dissappointed about as this is something that i could contribute quite a bit too. I work in a middle school and am currently completely revamping our year 6 SoWs. Im currently working on 2 units; Chocolate from bean to bar using the excellent comic relief resources and India.

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posted 07 May 2007 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for add   Click Here to Email add     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jimboe,

Will add you to the updates list.

Adam

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posted 07 May 2007 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wendyn   Click Here to Email wendyn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wendy Hardman, who wrote the article on Transition, would be a primary teacher worth involving in this project.

We will e-mail people who are registered for the Primary Geography Quality Mark. Wendy was a Gold award winner in the pilot year of the PGQM.

Have you looked at the most recent editions of primary Geographer? There are often articles worth reading that show how primary teachers are trying to deliver thoughtful and creative approaches to geography. Also see the article by Fran Martin linked to personal/ everyday geography.

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posted 07 May 2007 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JennyWebb   Click Here to Email JennyWebb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just saw this thread and as a Geography co-ordinator at a junior school, it made me extremely excited. I think a focus on Primary Geography and developing links with secondary schools are excellent ideas, especially considering what a bashing KS1-2 geography has tended to receive in the annual Ofsted reports!

Are there any particular areas of geographic skills or understanding that secondary teachers are finding missing when pupils begin in Yr 7, which might be useful to teach in Yr 6?

I agree with the previous comments, about the desire to move in a new direction away from the QCA units and some of the commercial packs (although they have provided a sound starting point for many teachers that might not have been confident in developing their own scheme of work). Some schools have been teaching about Chembokoli/ St Lucia/ Godstone for quite some time and I've seen the teacher's boredom with the topic being passed on to their pupils. So it would be great to develop something fresh that would inspire teachers AND pupils! I think this is especially true, considering the recent change in the Primary Strategy and focus on developing a 'richer' curriculm, with meaningful links with other subjects. Also, if it was something that teachers found exciting and inspiring, then it might mean that Yr 6 teachers might be more inclined to make some space for it in their busy, SATs driven timetable.

The ideas about ecological footprints sound really interesting and should motivate learners because it really involves them. It could be used to devlop enquiry skills (which sometimes get overlooked in the geography primary curriculum because non-specialists aren't always sure in how to facilitate them successfully) and at the end of the topic chn could communicate their findings (e.g. school news report, display, in assembly etc)which would give it a purpose.

I think that something related to sustainable development would definately be worth considering as it is an exciting area that some schools still haven't developed yet but is becoming increasingly important in today's climate. When deciding what to base the scheme on, it might be worth bearing in mind David Bell's quote (HM Chief Inspector of Schools, Ofsted, in ‘The value and importance of geography’, Primary Geographer): 'There is a need to ensure that geography is a subject which reflects the changing landscape and issues of the twenty-first century. Geography should have a leading role to play in preparing young people to face their responsibilities and develop a critical understanding of the rapidly changing world in which they live.'
I've been working with the Yr 6 teachers at my school to develop an enquiry unit investigating development in the local area, what they would like to see happening with developments in town, impacts and looking to the future. (Having said this, we are based in Croydon where there is huge scope for this type of topic!)

I also thought the chocolate 'Bean to bar' / fairtrade idea could be succesful - I recently taught a short unit on this to my Year 5 class and they LOVED it (might have had something to do with getting to try some fairtrade chocolate though!!). This topic, as mentioned previously, also has some excellent resources (such as video clips, raps, activity ideas) related to it on the Comic Relief site that I think primary teachers would find useful.

Another idea which some primary co-ordinators might find helpful, could be the opportunity to go and visit a secondary school, watching a geography specialsit teach and discussing transition, considering that MANY primary geography co-ordinators aren't specialists themselves and some have only ended up in the role because it came with something else!

Anyway, I'll stop wittering on - I think this is a great idea, I look forward to what will come of this, and I'll be more than happy if I could help out in any way!
Jenny

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posted 07 May 2007 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeoDave   Click Here to Email GeoDave     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Excellent contribution to this thread Jenny. It is exactly what we were hoping for. There has to be lots more scope for Geography specialists providing some kind of support to their primary colleagues - and it is long overdue in my opinion.

Keep the comments coming. Adam no doubt is keeping a careful record of all contributions

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posted 07 May 2007 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whardman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you to Wendy North for introducing me. I am very interested in this area and believe that the partnership between KS2/ KS3 is generally not handled consistently or well.
My background - I taught Geography in high schools for some years before a career break. I have been teaching in a Primary school for 6 years.
I am happy to share my experiences etc and would love to listen to others ideas/ opinions. As has been mentioned, this is a busy time of year for us so I may be otherwise occupied for the next few weeks!

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posted 07 May 2007 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlemisssunshine   Click Here to Email littlemisssunshine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for all the contributions - there are loads of excellent ideas here, and it is really exciting to see so many people so enthusiastic about the idea!

Still time for anyone else who would like to share ideas and/or offer help!

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